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Molochh · Sep 08, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

In HA, suicide before game start to get summons out, if whole team can suicide+summon you can for example have 8 flesh golems at start. with death pentaly though (-10/8 from zaishen).

Would this or some variant work?

zelgadissan · Sep 08, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28

It might have been tried before.

Molochh · Sep 08, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48

wow, this is rly cool

Zzes Tyan · Sep 08, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Golemway was epic.

Songbringer · Sep 09, 2009, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Ok, so read that whole post and I don't get it. You had 3 flesh golems...how is that so hard to defend against seems to me you could spike them out pretty easily. The little equation he has says flesh golem x 22= win but how are they getting 22 golems...

The Cake Archer · Sep 09, 2009, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by Songbringer

Ok, so read that whole post and I don't get it. You had 3 flesh golems...how is that so hard to defend against seems to me you could spike them out pretty easily. The little equation he has says flesh golem x 22= win but how are they getting 22 golems...

Long ago, veretas gaze allowed you to bypass the limits set on controlling minions.

zelgadissan · Sep 09, 2009, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Basically, you summon a Fleshy then die so it becomes uncontrolled. Then you can have another one when you get revived, then repeat the process. During the process you have a N/Mo spamming Heal Area to keep everybody alive, including the Fleshies, and he always has energy thanks to the constant deaths. During this process the ele grabs them all up with Verata's Gaze, then once you have enough your necros spam Blood of the Master to keep them alive.

I never played against it, but that's how I understand it between both hearing discussions about it and reading the post.

Songbringer · Sep 09, 2009, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Ah, never knew about that bug...makes sense now.

majikmajikmajik · Sep 09, 2009, 01:41 AM // 01:41

i envy that guild..<3 lol

Celtus · Sep 09, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

i think a similar tactic was very dominant back in the first couple months after prophecies release.. saccers were used to make a minion factory before the game started (flesh golems werent an option back then), and i think there was no limit on the amount of minions one player could control?? i remember one particular MM always holding halls..

i farm baddies · Sep 09, 2009, 08:55 AM // 08:55

ive played golemway where a dude sacs himself to 60dp and is a bip necro while his teammates get flesh golems up.

the build was pretty sexy, 5 or so flesh golems hitting for 60's to random people which created nice pressure, then we spiked often and demolished teams. its quite gimmicky however

Borat_Best_Player · Sep 09, 2009, 09:52 AM // 09:52

Pretty sure I've seen flesh golems (At 17 death magic) hit for up to 150 or 160 even...

Tijger · Sep 09, 2009, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by Celtus

i think a similar tactic was very dominant back in the first couple months after prophecies release.. saccers were used to make a minion factory before the game started (flesh golems werent an option back then), and i think there was no limit on the amount of minions one player could control?? i remember one particular MM always holding halls..

Yeah, early on there was no limit on the number of minions you could have so the MM's were a tad too powerful sometimes

Muwhahahahahaha Ha · Sep 09, 2009, 11:41 AM // 11:41

isn't there build in HA right now called minion-way( or possible lich-way)? i can't seem to find it anywhere...but yeah its the same concept. you can get a good number of minions out before the match starts usually. uses aura of the lich i believe+the norm health sacs

xanarot · Sep 09, 2009, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Sounds like the minion factory from past times.

Past being, prophecies pre-SF where necromancers didnt have a limit on minions yet. People had up to 50 minions in a team at the moment of the game start depending on the saccers skills/hp, fast-cast resmers and summoners.

Might still work nowadays, but more gimmick-like just like going thumpers or iway for giggles and some old school fun.

Sep 08, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#1
Molochh Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: None Profession: Mo/Me	Does this work/ever been tried? In HA, suicide before game start to get summons out, if whole team can suicide+summon you can for example have 8 flesh golems at start. with death pentaly though (-10/8 from zaishen). Would this or some variant work?

Sep 09, 2009, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#7
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Basically, you summon a Fleshy then die so it becomes uncontrolled. Then you can have another one when you get revived, then repeat the process. During the process you have a N/Mo spamming Heal Area to keep everybody alive, including the Fleshies, and he always has energy thanks to the constant deaths. During this process the ele grabs them all up with Verata's Gaze, then once you have enough your necros spam Blood of the Master to keep them alive. I never played against it, but that's how I understand it between both hearing discussions about it and reading the post. Last edited by zelgadissan; Sep 09, 2009 at 12:45 AM // 00:45..

Sep 09, 2009, 12:41 PM // 12:41	#15
xanarot Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: [GoE] Profession: R/	Sounds like the minion factory from past times. Past being, prophecies pre-SF where necromancers didnt have a limit on minions yet. People had up to 50 minions in a team at the moment of the game start depending on the saccers skills/hp, fast-cast resmers and summoners. Might still work nowadays, but more gimmick-like just like going thumpers or iway for giggles and some old school fun. Last edited by xanarot; Sep 09, 2009 at 12:45 PM // 12:45..

Sep 08, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28	#2
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	It might have been tried before.

Sep 08, 2009, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#3
Molochh Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: None Profession: Mo/Me	wow, this is rly cool

Sep 08, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28	#4
Zzes Tyan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Guild: [Play] Profession: D/	Golemway was epic.

Sep 09, 2009, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#5
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	Ok, so read that whole post and I don't get it. You had 3 flesh golems...how is that so hard to defend against seems to me you could spike them out pretty easily. The little equation he has says flesh golem x 22= win but how are they getting 22 golems...

Sep 09, 2009, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#8
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	Ah, never knew about that bug...makes sense now.

Sep 09, 2009, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#9
majikmajikmajik Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SATown~Tx Guild: Guild Hopper! Profession: R/	i envy that guild..<3 lol

Sep 09, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29	#10
Celtus Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: D/	i think a similar tactic was very dominant back in the first couple months after prophecies release.. saccers were used to make a minion factory before the game started (flesh golems werent an option back then), and i think there was no limit on the amount of minions one player could control?? i remember one particular MM always holding halls..

Sep 09, 2009, 08:55 AM // 08:55	#11
i farm baddies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2009	ive played golemway where a dude sacs himself to 60dp and is a bip necro while his teammates get flesh golems up. the build was pretty sexy, 5 or so flesh golems hitting for 60's to random people which created nice pressure, then we spiked often and demolished teams. its quite gimmicky however

Sep 09, 2009, 09:52 AM // 09:52	#12
Borat_Best_Player Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2009	Pretty sure I've seen flesh golems (At 17 death magic) hit for up to 150 or 160 even...

Sep 09, 2009, 11:41 AM // 11:41	#14
Muwhahahahahaha Ha Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2009 Profession: A/	isn't there build in HA right now called minion-way( or possible lich-way)? i can't seem to find it anywhere...but yeah its the same concept. you can get a good number of minions out before the match starts usually. uses aura of the lich i believe+the norm health sacs